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		<title>Geo Setups</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;SteveB: /* Some standard Geo settings */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Some standard Geo settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;table x:str border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=655 style=&#039;border-collapse:&lt;br /&gt;
 collapse;table-layout:fixed;width:493pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl24 width=158 style=&#039;height:12.75pt;width:119pt&#039;&amp;gt;Geometry&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl25 width=122 style=&#039;width:92pt&#039;&amp;gt;Standard S1 &amp;amp;amp; S2&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl25 width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;S2 135R&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl25 width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;340R Road&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl25 width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;340R Track&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Ride Height F/R&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;130/130mm&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;120/120mm&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;100/110mm&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;100/110mm&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Steering axis inclination&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;12°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;12°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;12°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;12°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Front Castor&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;+3.8°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;+3.8°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;+3.7°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;+3.7°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;+3.8°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;+3.8°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;+3.8°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;+3.8°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Front Camber&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-0.1°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-0.1°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;0°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;-0.5° &amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span lang=EN-GB&amp;gt;-0.5°&amp;lt;span&lt;br /&gt;
  style=&#039;mso-spacerun:yes&#039;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-1.8° &amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span lang=EN-GB&amp;gt;-1.8°&amp;lt;span&lt;br /&gt;
  style=&#039;mso-spacerun:yes&#039;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Front alignment/toe&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;0.2mm OUT Overall&amp;quot;&amp;gt;0.2mm OUT Overall&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;0 mm&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;0.2mm OUT overall&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;0.5mm OUT overall&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Rear Camber&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-1.8°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-1.8°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-1.8°&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-1.8°&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-2.0° &amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span lang=EN-GB&amp;gt;-2.0°&amp;lt;span&lt;br /&gt;
  style=&#039;mso-spacerun:yes&#039;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;-2.7° &amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span lang=EN-GB&amp;gt;-2.7°&amp;lt;span&lt;br /&gt;
  style=&#039;mso-spacerun:yes&#039;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Rear alignment/toe&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27 x:str=&amp;quot;&#039;1.2mm IN Overall&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1.2mm IN each side&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;1.2mm IN each side&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;1.5mm IN each side&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;2.5mm IN each side&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=17 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td height=17 class=xl26 style=&#039;height:12.75pt&#039;&amp;gt;Bump Steer&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;2.0° to 2.5° toe in&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl28&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td class=xl27&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;tr height=0 style=&#039;display:none&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td width=158 style=&#039;width:119pt&#039;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td width=122 style=&#039;width:92pt&#039;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td width=125 style=&#039;width:94pt&#039;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/table&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
converting from mm to degrees; divide the toe in mm by the wheel rim diameter in mm then ARC SIN the answer&lt;br /&gt;
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== Geo setting X does Y ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some guidlines although its dependent on many, many other factors&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Increasing front camber from the default -0.1° to -0.5° each side will dramatically improve the understeer although the inside edges of the tyres will wear slightly faster.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Increasing rear camber from the default -1.8° to -2.0° (or higher) makes the car more neutral after you&#039;ve removed the understeer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Increasing front toe helps with the sharpness of the turn-in&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Increasing rear toe cancells out the rear suspension flex when the tyre is loaded which leads to toe out - so running more toe in compensates for that - you don&#039;t want toe out at the rear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Setting your own geo ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst a race prep specialist can charge £200 for a Geo you can DIY Castor, camber and toe settings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. To baseline your current setup www.alignmycar.co.uk will find a local place with a Hunter alignment system who will privide a setup sheet showing Castor, camber and toe for £15&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you dont have the S1 or S2 service manaual suspension sections you really should get them as this is only a small part; http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/experience/maintenance/alignment/alignment.html &lt;br /&gt;
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2. Set the front castor by &amp;quot;counting washers&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Set the front and rear camber by adding &amp;amp; removing shims (removing a 1mm shim plate will alter camber by approximately -0.25° at the front and -0.30° at the rear).&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Back to the alignment centre to check your config for another £15 and set your front and rear toe for another £30. You can now alter the camber without materially affecting toe.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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