Geo Setups - Revision history

Lithopsian: /* Geo setting X does Y */ caps

2025-08-15T20:41:16Z

Geo setting X does Y: caps

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	* Front toe affects stability or responsiveness of turn in. Front Toe out (standard) makes the car more responsive turn in but causes additional drag in straights. Front toe in is more stable in straight line.		* Front toe affects stability or responsiveness of turn in. Front Toe out (standard) makes the car more responsive turn in but causes additional drag in straights. Front toe in is more stable in straight line.

	* Rear Toe controls the stability of the rear through the corner. Rear toe in (standard) makes the car more stable and apparently the ~~elise~~ toes in more at the rear as the suspension compresses. Rear toe out causes the rear to steer out from the corner, reducing stability.		* Rear Toe controls the stability of the rear through the corner. Rear toe in (standard) makes the car more stable and apparently the Elise toes in more at the rear as the suspension compresses. Rear toe out causes the rear to steer out from the corner, reducing stability.

	== Factors affecting Geo ==		== Factors affecting Geo ==

Lithopsian: /* Factors affecting Geo */ sp

2025-08-15T20:40:51Z

Factors affecting Geo: sp

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	== Factors affecting Geo ==		== Factors affecting Geo ==
	When asking questions on the forums about "the best geo for ..." the following need to be ~~considred~~ so make an effort to specify;		When asking questions on the forums about "the best geo for ..." the following need to be considered so make an effort to specify;

	* What you are using the car for (road, sprint race, endurance race)		* What you are using the car for (road, sprint race, endurance race)

Lithopsian: /* Setting your own geo */ sp

2025-08-15T20:40:41Z

Setting your own geo: sp

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	== Setting your own geo ==		== Setting your own geo ==
	Whilst a race prep specialist can charge £200 for a Geo you can DIY castor, camber and toe settings. With a lot of variability in quality at alignment centres (and Lotus dealers !) for the best results put the effort in yourself and build a string based alignment rig which can be more accurate than a computerised laser system. To make a DIY geo/~~alignmnet~~ rig see:[[Geo Alignment Rig (Home Made)]]		Whilst a race prep specialist can charge £200 for a Geo you can DIY castor, camber and toe settings. With a lot of variability in quality at alignment centres (and Lotus dealers !) for the best results put the effort in yourself and build a string based alignment rig which can be more accurate than a computerised laser system. To make a DIY geo/alignment rig see:[[Geo Alignment Rig (Home Made)]]


	1. The Hunter computerised laser alignment system is one of the best (the ~~variabiltiy~~ is quality of the operator) http://www.alignmycar.co.uk will find a local place with a Hunter alignment system who will provide a setup sheet showing castor, camber and toe (probably in dd:mm:ss rather than decimal degrees) for £15 and can set the front and rear toe for another £30.		1. The Hunter computerised laser alignment system is one of the best (the variability is quality of the operator) http://www.alignmycar.co.uk will find a local place with a Hunter alignment system who will provide a setup sheet showing castor, camber and toe (probably in dd:mm:ss rather than decimal degrees) for £15 and can set the front and rear toe for another £30.


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	'''~~Absolutley~~ critical to getting a good geo is having the right ballast in the seats e.g. for a 780Kg race Elise the difference between empty and an 85Kg driver is 5mm ride height, 0.2° camber and 1mm toe. (Depending on Spring rates used) Don't let your alignment place guess'''		'''Absolutely critical to getting a good geo is having the right ballast in the seats e.g. for a 780Kg race Elise the difference between empty and an 85Kg driver is 5mm ride height, 0.2° camber and 1mm toe. (Depending on Spring rates used) Don't let your alignment place guess'''

	==See Also==		==See Also==

Lithopsian: /* Elise/Exige */ split standard S1 and S2 since the ride heights are different (Toyota S2 has a slightly different geo)

2025-07-28T15:06:39Z

Elise/Exige: split standard S1 and S2 since the ride heights are different (Toyota S2 has a slightly different geo)

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	\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]		\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Standard S1 & S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| Standard S1 \|\| 140/140mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
			\|-
			\| Standard S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| S2 135R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.7° \|\| 0° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| S2 135R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.7° \|\| 0° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]

BillyB: /* Elise/Exige */

2023-08-04T13:44:41Z

Elise/Exige

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	\| Exige V6 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.4° \|\| 0.4mm OUT Overall mm [-0.06°] \|\| -1.9° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.30°]		\| Exige V6 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.4° \|\| 0.4mm OUT Overall mm [-0.06°] \|\| -1.9° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.30°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Exige 380/410/430 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.8° \|\| 0.~~12mm~~ OUT Overall mm [-x.x°] \|\| -2.10° \|\| ~~0.6mm~~ IN each side [x.x°]		\| Exige 380/410/430 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.8° \|\| x.xmm OUT Overall mm [-0.12°] \|\| -2.10° \|\| x,xmm IN each side [0.6°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]

BillyB: /* Elise/Exige */

2023-08-02T15:15:31Z

Elise/Exige

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	\|-		\|-
	\| Exige V6 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.4° \|\| 0.4mm OUT Overall mm [-0.06°] \|\| -1.9° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.30°]		\| Exige V6 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.4° \|\| 0.4mm OUT Overall mm [-0.06°] \|\| -1.9° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.30°]
			\|-
			\| Exige 380/410/430 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.8° \|\| 0.12mm OUT Overall mm [-x.x°] \|\| -2.10° \|\| 0.6mm IN each side [x.x°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]

Mwl: Visuals

2023-03-30T18:03:51Z

Visuals

Ganzdachhaus: Added specs for the V6 Cup to the table, per the Exige_V6_Cup_Car_Supplementary_Manual_V6

2019-02-03T15:24:20Z

Added specs for the V6 Cup to the table, per the Exige_V6_Cup_Car_Supplementary_Manual_V6

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	\| Exige 240R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20°]		\| Exige 240R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20°]
			\|-
			\| Exige V6 Cup \|\| 130/136mm \|\| +2.8° \|\| -0.4° \|\| 0.4mm OUT Overall mm [-0.06°] \|\| -1.9° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.30°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]

Lithopsian: breaking => braking

2018-06-18T15:53:07Z

breaking => braking

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	Some starter guidelines although its really really complex stuff and dependent on many other factors;		Some starter guidelines although its really really complex stuff and dependent on many other factors;

	* Increasing front camber from the default -0.1° to -0.5° each side will dramatically improve the understeer, although the inside edges of the tyres will wear slightly faster. Increasing past -1.0° is great for high speed corners but can compromise low speed cornering, will reduce ~~breaking~~ effectiveness and it will tramline on the road.		* Increasing front camber from the default -0.1° to -0.5° each side will dramatically improve the understeer, although the inside edges of the tyres will wear slightly faster. Increasing past -1.0° is great for high speed corners but can compromise low speed cornering, will reduce braking effectiveness and it will tramline on the road.

	* Increasing rear camber from the default -1.8° to -2.0° (or higher) makes the car more neutral after you've removed the under steer with front camber. Look at the ratios on the standard settings and maintain the front/rear % delta.		* Increasing rear camber from the default -1.8° to -2.0° (or higher) makes the car more neutral after you've removed the under steer with front camber. Look at the ratios on the standard settings and maintain the front/rear % delta.

Jasonp80: /* Elise/Exige */

2017-03-02T20:01:20Z

Elise/Exige

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	{\| border=1 cellpadding=5 align=center		{\| border=1 cellpadding=5 align=center
	\|- style="background-color:#fed200; face:bold;"		\|- style="background-color:#fed200; face:bold;"
	\| rowspan=2 \| Geometry \|\| rowspan=2 \| Ride Height<br />Front/Rear \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Front \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Rear		\| rowspan=2 \| Geometry \|\| rowspan=2 \| Ride Height<br />Front/Rear \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Front \|\| colspan=2 align=center \| Rear
	\|- style="background-color:#fed200;"		\|- style="background-color:#fed200;"
	\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]		\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]
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	\| Msport \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]		\| Msport \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-style="background-color:#fed200;"		\|-style="background-color:#fed200;"
	\| colspan=9 \| Non-Standard Geo Settings		\| colspan=7 \| Non-Standard Geo Settings
	\|-		\|-
	\| a forum hero S2 race \|\| 110/115mm \|\| +3.6° \|\| -2.0° \|\| 0.5 mm OUT each side [-0.07°] \|\| -3.0° \|\| 1 mm IN each side [0.13°]		\| a forum hero S2 race \|\| 110/115mm \|\| +3.6° \|\| -2.0° \|\| 0.5 mm OUT each side [-0.07°] \|\| -3.0° \|\| 1 mm IN each side [0.13°]
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	{\| border=1 cellpadding=5 align=center		{\| border=1 cellpadding=5 align=center
	\|- style="background-color:#fed200; face:bold;"		\|- style="background-color:#fed200; face:bold;"
	\| rowspan=2 \| Geometry \|\| rowspan=2 \| Ride Height<br />Front/Rear \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Front \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Rear		\| rowspan=2 \| Geometry \|\| rowspan=2 \| Ride Height<br />Front/Rear \|\| colspan=3 align=center \| Front \|\| colspan=2 align=center \| Rear
	\|- style="background-color:#fed200;"		\|- style="background-color:#fed200;"
	\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe \|\| Camber \|\| Toe		\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe \|\| Camber \|\| Toe

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	\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]		\| Castor \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees] \|\| Camber \|\| Toe [Degrees]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Standard S1 & S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| Standard S1 & S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| S2 135R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.7° \|\| 0° \|\| 0mm [0.00] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| S2 135R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.7° \|\| 0° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 340R Road \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.5° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20]		\| 340R Road \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.5° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 340R Track \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -1.8° \|\| 0.5mm OUT Overall [-0.07]\|\| -2.7° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.33]		\| 340R Track \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -1.8° \|\| 0.5mm OUT Overall [-0.07°]\|\| -2.7° \|\| 2.5mm IN each side [0.33°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Exige S1 \|\| 112/122mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.5° \|\| 0.1mm OUT Overall [-0.01]\|\| -2.4° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| Exige S1 \|\| 112/122mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.5° \|\| 0.1mm OUT Overall [-0.01°]\|\| -2.4° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Exige S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20]		\| Exige S2 \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Exige 240R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20]		\| Exige 240R \|\| 120/120mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.5mm IN each side [0.20°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| 111R \|\| 130/130mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.1° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -1.8° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| 211 \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +4.0° \|\| -1.4° \|\| 0mm [0.00] \|\| -2.5° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| 211 \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +4.0° \|\| -1.4° \|\| 0mm [0.00°] \|\| -2.5° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Msport \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16]		\| Msport \|\| 100/110mm \|\| +3.8° \|\| -0.3° \|\| 0.2mm OUT Overall [-0.03°] \|\| -2.0° \|\| 1.2mm IN each side [0.16°]
	\|-style="background-color:#fed200;"		\|-style="background-color:#fed200;"
	\| colspan=9 \| Non-Standard Geo Settings		\| colspan=9 \| Non-Standard Geo Settings
	\|-		\|-
	\| a forum hero S2 race \|\| 110/115mm \|\| +3.6° \|\| -2.0° \|\| 0.5 mm OUT each side [-0.07] \|\| -3.0° \|\| 1 mm IN each side [0.13]		\| a forum hero S2 race \|\| 110/115mm \|\| +3.6° \|\| -2.0° \|\| 0.5 mm OUT each side [-0.07°] \|\| -3.0° \|\| 1 mm IN each side [0.13°]
	\|}		\|}