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| − | The standard OEM Elise radiator is another weak point in the cooling system. Although it is lightweight, it has plastic end tanks which are prone to expanding and leaking under pressure. | + | [[Image:Oem rad end tank leak.jpg|thumb|right|Drivers side plastic end tank leaking under pressure]] |
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| + | The standard OEM Elise radiator is another weak point in the cooling system. Although it is lightweight, it has plastic end tanks which are prone to expanding and leaking under pressure (possible manufacture problem where the main core is bonded to the top/bottom - but no reference). This is the most common fault and the first signs of failure are drops of coolant on the windscreen, either drivers or passengers side, but catastrophic failure of the end tanks has been known. | ||
Unfortunately you need to [[Remove the front clamshell|Remove S2 front clamshell]] before you can [[replace the radiator & cooling fans|replace the radiator]]. | Unfortunately you need to [[Remove the front clamshell|Remove S2 front clamshell]] before you can [[replace the radiator & cooling fans|replace the radiator]]. | ||
A upgraded radiator is pretty advisable when going for Honda/Audi/Duratec engine upgrades. Most converted cars on the original radiators seem to blow them up pretty soon after conversion. | A upgraded radiator is pretty advisable when going for Honda/Audi/Duratec engine upgrades. Most converted cars on the original radiators seem to blow them up pretty soon after conversion. | ||
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==Aftermarket Upgrades== | ==Aftermarket Upgrades== | ||
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|[http://www.seriouslylotus.com/ Seriously Lotus] | |[http://www.seriouslylotus.com/ Seriously Lotus] | ||
| − | |[ | + | |[https://www.seriouslylotus.com/radiator-high-pressure-32mm High Pressure 32mm] |
| − | |[ | + | |[https://www.seriouslylotus.com/radiator-high-pressure-42mm Radiator High Pressure 42mm] |
| − | | | + | |[https://www.seriouslylotus.com/pro-alloy-radiator-single-pass-45mm Pro-Alloy Radiator Single Pass 45mm] |
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| − | The radiator fitted by Lotus with the plastic end caps is a 32mm single core, single pass. The direct replacement for this radiator, maintaining the same coolant volume in the system, is in column one. Columns two and three offer greater capacity. Other variations are available but the above three will cater for 99.9% of people on road and trackdays. | + | The radiator fitted by Lotus with the plastic end caps is a 32mm single core, single pass, manufactured by [http://www.pmagroup.co.uk/branches.php PMA Group]. The direct replacement for this radiator, maintaining the same coolant volume in the system, is in column one. Columns two and three offer greater capacity. Other variations are available but the above three will cater for 99.9% of people on road and trackdays. |
The following video will help you understand some of the terms used in radiator speak, like twin rows, dual cores, triple pass etc: | The following video will help you understand some of the terms used in radiator speak, like twin rows, dual cores, triple pass etc: | ||
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| + | Image:Standard oem radiator.jpg|Standard OEM 32mm core, single row, single pass, with plastic end tanks | ||
Image:All aluminium hi pressure radiator.jpg|32mm core, single row, single pass | Image:All aluminium hi pressure radiator.jpg|32mm core, single row, single pass | ||
Image:ep_32_1row.jpg|Failing 32mm core, single row, single pass | Image:ep_32_1row.jpg|Failing 32mm core, single row, single pass | ||
| − | Image: | + | Image:es_42_srsp.jpg|42mm core, single row, single pass |
Image:pro_alloy_45_2row.jpg|Pro Alloy 45mm core, twin rwo, single pass | Image:pro_alloy_45_2row.jpg|Pro Alloy 45mm core, twin rwo, single pass | ||
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| − | !42mm Core/Single Row/Triple Pass | + | !Model |
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| + | |ProAlloy | ||
| + | |[http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=det&pt=&p=895&id=proalloy 42mm Core / Single Row / Triple Pass] | ||
| + | |[http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/84/1190/triple-pass-radiator/ EliseParts] <br> [http://www.elise-shop.com/aluminium-triple-pass-race-radiator-all-models-p-354077.html Elise Shop] <br> [https://www.seriouslylotus.com/radiator-tripple-pass-42mm Seriously Lotus] | ||
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| − | | | + | |[http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=det&pt=&p=895&id=proalloy 45mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass] |
| − | + | |[http://www.hangar111.com/shop/lotus-2-eleven-engine-tuning-parts/571-elise-exige-2-eleven-triple-pass-alloy-radiator.html Hangar111] <br> [http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/84/1190/triple-pass-radiator/ Elise Parts] <br> [http://www.seriouslylotus.com/pro-alloy-triple-pass-radiator Seriously Lotus] | |
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| − | |[http://www. | + | |50mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass |
| − | | | + | |[http://www.seriouslylotus.com/triple-pass-twin-core-50mm-race-radiator Seriously Lotus] |
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| − | |[http:// | + | |Koyorad Racing |
| − | + | |[http://koyoradracing.com/news.asp?m=8&y=2016 48mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass <br> P/N# HH652890N] | |
| − | |[ | + | |[https://www.amazon.com/Koyorad-HH652890N-Radiator-for-Lotus/dp/B01KIC7M6Y Amazon] <br> [http://www.optionsauto.com/products.asp?dept=14600 Options Auto] |
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| − | + | |27mm Core / unknown / unknown | |
| − | |[http://www. | + | |[http://www.blackwatchracing.com/product-p/1215.htm Blackwatch Racing] |
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| + | "bespoke" denotes limited supply radiators specially created by race shops / tuners for high-performance cooling | ||
| − | == | + | ==Indication of HGF== |
| − | + | Its been suggested in the past that a blown radiator can indicate imminent HGF. The header tank cap is normally the first to vent when the system is pressurised since it only requires approximately 1 bar. The radiator is designed to operate at pressures a lot higher than this and the cap acts as a fuse. However, the header tank is on the lowest pressure point of the circuit and this allows high pressure peaks on the high pressure side (which is from the engine to the rad). Therefore it would be prudent to have a petrochemical test (sniff test) performed on the coolant fluid if the radiator fails to rule out possible HGF. | |
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[[Category:Engine Cooling]] | [[Category:Engine Cooling]] | ||
Latest revision as of 22:11, 5 February 2017
The standard OEM Elise radiator is another weak point in the cooling system. Although it is lightweight, it has plastic end tanks which are prone to expanding and leaking under pressure (possible manufacture problem where the main core is bonded to the top/bottom - but no reference). This is the most common fault and the first signs of failure are drops of coolant on the windscreen, either drivers or passengers side, but catastrophic failure of the end tanks has been known.
Unfortunately you need to Remove S2 front clamshell before you can replace the radiator.
A upgraded radiator is pretty advisable when going for Honda/Audi/Duratec engine upgrades. Most converted cars on the original radiators seem to blow them up pretty soon after conversion.
Aftermarket Upgrades
There are basically three options available when it comes to after market radiators that will fit an Elise/Exige. All three are 'all aluminium' and none have the dreaded plastic end tanks. There appears to be only two manufacturers that are making these radiators. The 42mm single row is made by ??? and the 45mm twin row single pass is made by Pro Alloy. All on-line retailers sell the same radiators, they just badge them with different names to confuse you. Hopefully the following table will help when making your choice for purchase:
| On-line Retailer |
32mm Core/Single Row Manufactured by ??? |
42mm Core/Single Row Manufactured by ??? |
45mm Core/Twin Row Manufactured by Pro Alloy |
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| Eliseparts | ALUMINIUM HIGH PRESSURE RADIATOR | Not available | ALUMINIUM UPGRADED RADIATOR |
| Eliseshop | Not available | Aluminium High Pressure extra capacity Radiator | Pro Alloy Full Aluminium Race Radiator |
| Pro Alloy | Not applicable | Not applicable | Alloy Race Radiator |
| Hangar 111 | Not available | PERFORMANCE RADIATOR - 42MM CORE | TRACK DAY/MOTORSPORT RADIATOR - 45MM CORE |
| Seriously Lotus | High Pressure 32mm | Radiator High Pressure 42mm | Pro-Alloy Radiator Single Pass 45mm |
The radiator fitted by Lotus with the plastic end caps is a 32mm single core, single pass, manufactured by PMA Group. The direct replacement for this radiator, maintaining the same coolant volume in the system, is in column one. Columns two and three offer greater capacity. Other variations are available but the above three will cater for 99.9% of people on road and trackdays.
The following video will help you understand some of the terms used in radiator speak, like twin rows, dual cores, triple pass etc:
Standard OEM 32mm core, single row, single pass, with plastic end tanks
32mm core, single row, single pass
Failing 32mm core, single row, single pass
42mm core, single row, single pass
Pro Alloy 45mm core, twin rwo, single pass
Triple Pass
The triple pass radiators are only intended for motorsports and are not recommended for road use. The reason being there is not enough coolant flow at idle (sitting in traffic) to force the coolant through three passes of the radiator. Road users who have fitted triple-pass radiators have resulted in increased engine temps. This advice holds for heavy trackday heros that drive their cars to/from circuit; the car is still liable to be stationary in traffic.
| Manufacture | Model | Retailer(s) | Notes |
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| ProAlloy | 42mm Core / Single Row / Triple Pass | EliseParts Elise Shop Seriously Lotus |
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| ProAlloy | 45mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass | Hangar111 Elise Parts Seriously Lotus |
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| Unknown | 50mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass | Seriously Lotus | |
| Koyorad Racing | 48mm Core / Twin Row / Triple Pass P/N# HH652890N |
Amazon Options Auto |
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| Denso F1(bespoke) | 27mm Core / unknown / unknown | Blackwatch Racing | 21 fins / inch, .25 tube spacing, 2.5lbs empty |
"bespoke" denotes limited supply radiators specially created by race shops / tuners for high-performance cooling
Indication of HGF
Its been suggested in the past that a blown radiator can indicate imminent HGF. The header tank cap is normally the first to vent when the system is pressurised since it only requires approximately 1 bar. The radiator is designed to operate at pressures a lot higher than this and the cap acts as a fuse. However, the header tank is on the lowest pressure point of the circuit and this allows high pressure peaks on the high pressure side (which is from the engine to the rad). Therefore it would be prudent to have a petrochemical test (sniff test) performed on the coolant fluid if the radiator fails to rule out possible HGF.