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===Battery Coding===
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Most common batteries have a type number (UK) & this generally decides the physical size & the pole type/configuration but not the current rating as type numbers are available in several capacities eg 44A to around 70A.
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The more modern numbering system is the ETN system.
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eg '''580'''-'''063'''-'''039'''
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In which the 1st three digits are the current rating ('''-500''') then the configuration & physical size ('''type number 063''') & the last three are cold cranking ('''X100''') so in this example the battery specs are: 80A - type063 - 390A cold cranking.
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*'''Voltage''' - 12V
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*'''Capacity''' - 55Ah
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*'''CCA(EN)''' - 540A / 390A / 450A (but not important)
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*'''Dimensions(mm):''' 207 x 175 x 175
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===Battery "Conditioning"===
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'''Please add Info'''
  
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Like many things in life, the term “maintenance-free” is only partially true. Lead-acid batteries normally consume some of the water in their dilute sulphuric acid electrolyte during a normal charge-discharge cycle. It actually electrolyzes into hydrogen and oxygen and escapes as gas. So adding water periodically is necessary to keep the plates flooded. Maintenance-free batteries use a calcium alloy of lead instead of an antimony alloy, which reduces the amount of electrolysis. In addition, the amount of free-standing electrolyte above the plates is designed to be much higher in a new maintenance-free battery. This means that there’s enough electrolyte to keep the plates covered even after a few seasons of normal use. So, during the battery’s normal service life there should be no need to add water. Any abnormal electrical system condition or high ambient temperatures may boil off more than the normal amount of water, however. Adding water may extend the service life of these supposedly maintenance-free batteries, although one should be careful not to over dilute the electrolyte level.
  
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The extended use of battery chargers or conditioners may also cause the electrolyte levels in the cells to be reduced. Indeed, some battery conditioners that are marketed as being suitable for permanent connection are not suited for this - they can also reduce the electrolyte level over time. This is because they deliver a constant, albeit very low, current to the battery which drains the cells dry of electrolyte.
  
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===Battery===
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A truly intelligent conditioner should not have this problem, as they monitor the charge in the battery, adjusting the charge given to the battery as necessary. The Accumate is one such charger, although there are others that should be suitable.
  
  
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[[image:battery1.JPG|thumb|left|Battery filler caps may be concealed under a tab or even under a large vinyl label.]][[image:battery3.JPG|thumb|left|A built-in hydrometer eye is a good check, but won’t necessarily find a bad battery.]][[image:battery4.JPG|thumb|left|A Cut Away of a maintenance-free Battery.]]
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Voltage - 12V
 
  
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Capacity - 55Ah
 
  
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CCA(EN) - 540A / 390A / 450A (but not important)
 
  
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==Recommended Batteries ==
  
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Dimensions(mm):
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The S1 Elise uses one of the smallest standard car batteries available, Type 063, typically found on superminis like the Peugeot 106.
  
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242 x 175 x 175
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===Varta Blue Dynamic ===
  
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ETN (European Type Number): [http://pmd.varta-automotive.com/pmd2/showBatterieDetail.do?ArtikelNr=5444020443132 544 402 044 (Varta datasheet)]
  
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This is a good value for money battery with 44 Ah and 440 CCA. It weighs 11kg.
  
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===Varta Silver Dynamic ===
  
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===Battery "Conditioning"===
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ETN (European Type Number): [http://pmd.varta-automotive.com/pmd2/showBatterieDetail.do?ArtikelNr=5524010523162 552 401 052 (Varta datasheet)]
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This is an extremely powerful battery for the size, boasting 52 Ah and 520 CCA.  It weighs 13kg which is up to 1kg heavier than most others this size.  Prices vary considerably from £53 to £80 so shop around and find a supplier from the Varta web site.
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Note that the standard battery clamp doesn't engage with this battery properly. It will stop it jumping out, but not sloshing side to side. The battery also sits slightly too far to the rear of the car, meaning that the eliseparts adjustable battery clamp is under a bit of strain (but doesn't deform permanently). (Confirmed in S1 Elise.)
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===Halfords ===
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It is on their computer system if you cant remember the size and need to ask them.  Also remember there is a SELOC discount for all members at Halfords - [http://www.seloc.org/benefits.php?bc=6 check the benefits pages] for instructions.
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They might offer to fit it, but after checking their computer they'll find a warning that they've had problems with Elise immobilisers, and then decline to fit it for you. Allegedly their problem was with immobilisers on early S1's, but don't fear, just following the handbook procedure for S2's certainly produced no problems at all.
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===Tudor/Exide ===
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====Technica ====
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*Order number: 543 20
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*Type number: TA02
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*Capacity: 43 Ah
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*Cold start current: 370 EN
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*Lenght 207mm
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*Width  175mm
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*Height 175mm
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Regular battery with slightly higher capacity than OEM 36Ah
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====Tech-Start+ ====
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*Order number: 445 00
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*Type number: TP03
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*Capacity: 45 Ah
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*Cold start current: 450 EN
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*Lenght 207mm
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*Width  175mm
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*Height 175mm
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Extra cold temperature start capacity
  
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==== Tech-Tronic2 ====
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*Order number: 850 00
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*Type number: TC03
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*Capacity: 50 Ah
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*Cold start current: 360 EN
  
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'''Please add Info'''
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*Lenght 207mm
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*Width  175mm
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*Height 175mm
  
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Like many things in life, the term “maintenance-free” is only partially true. Lead-acid batteries normally consume some of the water in their dilute sulfuric acid electrolyte during a normal charge-discharge cycle. It actually electrolyzes into hydrogen and oxygen and escapes as gas. So adding water periodically is necessary to keep the plates flooded. Maintenance-free batteries use a calcium alloy of lead instead of an antimony alloy, which reduces the amount of electrolysis. In addition, the amount of free-standing electrolyte above the plates is designed to be much higher in a new maintenance-free battery. This means that there’s enough electrolyte to keep the plates covered even after a few seasons of normal use. So, during the battery’s normal service life there should be no need to add water. Any abnormal electrical system condition or high ambient temperatures may boil off more than the normal amount of water, however. Adding water may extend the service life of these supposedly maintenance-free batteries.
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Deep-cycle resistant battery
  
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==S1 Fitting==
  
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{{Infobox Timetools|time=15 minutes|tools=10mm socket set,Spanner to undo terminals on battery}}
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Battery filler caps may be concealed under a tab or even under a large vinyl label.
 
  
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Remove the windscreen washer tank by sliding up, rotating around 180 degrees and sitting it on the radiator. This helps prop up the bodywork while you work.
  
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[[image:battery3.JPG]]
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You could remove the radiator cowl using a Torx T10 screwdriver, but you're more than likely to bust a plastic fastener in the process. The radiator cowl is quite flexible so can be bent out of the way to allow the battery to exit.  It does help a lot to remove the cowl when lowering the new battery into position.
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A built-in hydrometer eye is a good check, but won’t necessarily find a bad battery.
 
  
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[[image:battery4.JPG]]
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It also helps to remove the plastic cover over the wiper motor, and snip off the cable ties on the wiring loom to make space to remove the old battery.
  
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===Halfords===
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Undo the battery clamp which the washer tank slid into. It has 3 10mm bolts. The top one is thinner than the others.
  
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As with all car batteries always remove the negative -ve terminal first and reattach it last - in case the spanner shorts the terminal to the cars bodywork this will prevent sparks / red hot spanners; [this is reversed on positive earth cars].
  
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Now the battery is free, but it needs to be lifted out of the car. It's a tight squeeze past the wiring looms but it can be done.
  
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Code: Type 063
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The new battery does not have the same type of handle as the Lotus part.
  
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People have suggested using a piece of wood to make up the difference, or even manufacturing a new bracket. I just cut the handle off the the old battery and stuck it onto the "step" on the old one with some sticky foam pads.
  
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Lotus sell a modified battery clamp for about a tenner [part. E111M0025F] which will fit even better but that means you have to remember to order it.
  
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It is on their computer system if you cant remember and need to ask them. Also remember there is a SELOC discount for all members at Halfords - check the benefits pages for instructions.
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Eliseparts also sell an [http://www.eliseparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=525 adjustable battery clamp] which allows adjustment for both height and width of the new battery. This is needed for the Varta batteries, which are wider.
  
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They might offer to fit it, but after checking their computer they'll find a warning that they've had problems with Elise immobilisers, and then decline to fit it for you. Alledgedly their problem was with immobilisers on early S1's, but dont fear, just following the handbook procedure for S2's certainly produced no problems at all.
 
  
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===S1 Fitting===
 
  
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The supplier assured me the battery was sealed - '''IT IS NOT!'''
  
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There are '''two''' vent holes on either side of the battery, about 1/4 inch in diameter. I used the passenger side one for the vent pipe, and plugged the driver's side one with the blanking plug which comes free, moulded onto the battery's handle.
  
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(Hopefully an S1 owner will be along shortly to confirm their handbook is fine too)
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The battery breather is '''Very''' important, not fitting the battery breather or forgetting to plug the second hole the Varta batteries have can mean concentrated sulphuric acid sloshing around inside your car - Not a good thing.
  
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Remember to smear the terminals with vaseline before reattaching the cables, this helps stop corrosion.
  
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If you are keen, remove the other end of the earth strap where it attaches to the chassis and clean it with emery paper, grease it with vaseline and refit - this can help with the "Engine temperature appears to change when I turn on the heater fan" problem.
  
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===S2 K-series Fitting===
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==S2 K-series Fitting==
  
  
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The procedure is described in the Owners Handbook and is pretty self explanatory:
 
The procedure is described in the Owners Handbook and is pretty self explanatory:
  
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1.  Undo the retaining clamp at the base of the battery (6mm allen key required), and slide the battery out of the retaining shoe so you have easy access to the terminals.  If you're doing this on your own - loosen the negative black earth cable nut slightly BUT DONT DISCONNECT IT JUST YET.
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1.  Undo the retaining clamp at the base of the battery (6mm Allen key required), and slide the battery out of the retaining shoe so you have easy access to the terminals.  If you're doing this on your own - loosen the negative black earth cable nut slightly BUT DON'T DISCONNECT IT JUST YET.
  
 
2.  Turn all lights, radios, satnav etc equipment off.
 
2.  Turn all lights, radios, satnav etc equipment off.
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3.  Turn the ignition off and wait about 10 seconds for the engine management system to settle down.
 
3.  Turn the ignition off and wait about 10 seconds for the engine management system to settle down.
  
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4.  DONT arm the alarm or immoboliser
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4.  '''DON'T''' arm the alarm or immobiliser
  
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5.  Within 25 seconds of turning off the ignition (ie before the immobiliser/alarm kicks in), disconnect the negative black earth cable from the battery.
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N.B. It is easier to undo the 12mm nut on the stud rather than attempt to undo the 10mm nut on the terminal
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5.  Within 25 seconds of turning off the ignition (i.e. before the immobiliser/alarm kicks in), disconnect the negative black earth cable from the battery.  '''ALWAYS''' disconnect the black first.
  
 
6.  Disconnect the positive red cable from the battery.
 
6.  Disconnect the positive red cable from the battery.
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8.  Connect the positive red cable to the new battery.
 
8.  Connect the positive red cable to the new battery.
  
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9.  Connect the negative black cable to the new battery (have the keyfob to hand just in case the alarm goes off)
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9.  Connect the negative black cable to the new battery (have the keyfob to hand just in case the alarm goes off).  '''ALWAYS''' reconnect the black last.
  
 
10.  Slide it back into the retaining shoe, refit the 6mm clamp.
 
10.  Slide it back into the retaining shoe, refit the 6mm clamp.
  
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==S2 Yota Fitting==
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_battery Wikipedia On Car Batteries]
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On the battery the ridges on the side that the mounts sit on are actually removable so you can just lift them out leaving a lower ridge which fits the mounts on the car perfectly.
  
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== Jump starting a battery ==
  
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===S2 Yoda Fitting===
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When jumping/charging batteries, hook up the positive terminals first, then negative (whether it's to the battery or to some convenient point on the chassis/engine).
  
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Once jumped/charged, remove negative first, then positive last.
  
  
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_battery Wikipedia On Car Batterys]
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[[Category:Electrical]]
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[[Category:Lotus Elise]]
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[[Category:S2]]

Latest revision as of 15:03, 9 October 2018

Delphi.jpg



Battery Coding

Most common batteries have a type number (UK) & this generally decides the physical size & the pole type/configuration but not the current rating as type numbers are available in several capacities eg 44A to around 70A.

The more modern numbering system is the ETN system.

eg 580-063-039

In which the 1st three digits are the current rating (-500) then the configuration & physical size (type number 063) & the last three are cold cranking (X100) so in this example the battery specs are: 80A - type063 - 390A cold cranking.

  • Voltage - 12V
  • Capacity - 55Ah
  • CCA(EN) - 540A / 390A / 450A (but not important)
  • Dimensions(mm): 207 x 175 x 175

Battery "Conditioning"

Please add Info

Like many things in life, the term “maintenance-free” is only partially true. Lead-acid batteries normally consume some of the water in their dilute sulphuric acid electrolyte during a normal charge-discharge cycle. It actually electrolyzes into hydrogen and oxygen and escapes as gas. So adding water periodically is necessary to keep the plates flooded. Maintenance-free batteries use a calcium alloy of lead instead of an antimony alloy, which reduces the amount of electrolysis. In addition, the amount of free-standing electrolyte above the plates is designed to be much higher in a new maintenance-free battery. This means that there’s enough electrolyte to keep the plates covered even after a few seasons of normal use. So, during the battery’s normal service life there should be no need to add water. Any abnormal electrical system condition or high ambient temperatures may boil off more than the normal amount of water, however. Adding water may extend the service life of these supposedly maintenance-free batteries, although one should be careful not to over dilute the electrolyte level.

The extended use of battery chargers or conditioners may also cause the electrolyte levels in the cells to be reduced. Indeed, some battery conditioners that are marketed as being suitable for permanent connection are not suited for this - they can also reduce the electrolyte level over time. This is because they deliver a constant, albeit very low, current to the battery which drains the cells dry of electrolyte.

A truly intelligent conditioner should not have this problem, as they monitor the charge in the battery, adjusting the charge given to the battery as necessary. The Accumate is one such charger, although there are others that should be suitable.


Battery filler caps may be concealed under a tab or even under a large vinyl label.
A built-in hydrometer eye is a good check, but won’t necessarily find a bad battery.
A Cut Away of a maintenance-free Battery.




Recommended Batteries

The S1 Elise uses one of the smallest standard car batteries available, Type 063, typically found on superminis like the Peugeot 106.

Varta Blue Dynamic

ETN (European Type Number): 544 402 044 (Varta datasheet)

This is a good value for money battery with 44 Ah and 440 CCA. It weighs 11kg.

Varta Silver Dynamic

ETN (European Type Number): 552 401 052 (Varta datasheet)

This is an extremely powerful battery for the size, boasting 52 Ah and 520 CCA. It weighs 13kg which is up to 1kg heavier than most others this size. Prices vary considerably from £53 to £80 so shop around and find a supplier from the Varta web site.

Note that the standard battery clamp doesn't engage with this battery properly. It will stop it jumping out, but not sloshing side to side. The battery also sits slightly too far to the rear of the car, meaning that the eliseparts adjustable battery clamp is under a bit of strain (but doesn't deform permanently). (Confirmed in S1 Elise.)

Halfords

It is on their computer system if you cant remember the size and need to ask them. Also remember there is a SELOC discount for all members at Halfords - check the benefits pages for instructions.

They might offer to fit it, but after checking their computer they'll find a warning that they've had problems with Elise immobilisers, and then decline to fit it for you. Allegedly their problem was with immobilisers on early S1's, but don't fear, just following the handbook procedure for S2's certainly produced no problems at all.

Tudor/Exide

Technica

  • Order number: 543 20
  • Type number: TA02
  • Capacity: 43 Ah
  • Cold start current: 370 EN
  • Lenght 207mm
  • Width 175mm
  • Height 175mm

Regular battery with slightly higher capacity than OEM 36Ah

Tech-Start+

  • Order number: 445 00
  • Type number: TP03
  • Capacity: 45 Ah
  • Cold start current: 450 EN
  • Lenght 207mm
  • Width 175mm
  • Height 175mm

Extra cold temperature start capacity

Tech-Tronic2

  • Order number: 850 00
  • Type number: TC03
  • Capacity: 50 Ah
  • Cold start current: 360 EN
  • Lenght 207mm
  • Width 175mm
  • Height 175mm

Deep-cycle resistant battery

S1 Fitting

Time & Tools
Time: 15 minutes
Tools: 10mm socket set,Spanner to undo terminals on battery

Remove the windscreen washer tank by sliding up, rotating around 180 degrees and sitting it on the radiator. This helps prop up the bodywork while you work.

You could remove the radiator cowl using a Torx T10 screwdriver, but you're more than likely to bust a plastic fastener in the process. The radiator cowl is quite flexible so can be bent out of the way to allow the battery to exit. It does help a lot to remove the cowl when lowering the new battery into position.

It also helps to remove the plastic cover over the wiper motor, and snip off the cable ties on the wiring loom to make space to remove the old battery.

Undo the battery clamp which the washer tank slid into. It has 3 10mm bolts. The top one is thinner than the others.

As with all car batteries always remove the negative -ve terminal first and reattach it last - in case the spanner shorts the terminal to the cars bodywork this will prevent sparks / red hot spanners; [this is reversed on positive earth cars].

Now the battery is free, but it needs to be lifted out of the car. It's a tight squeeze past the wiring looms but it can be done.

The new battery does not have the same type of handle as the Lotus part.

People have suggested using a piece of wood to make up the difference, or even manufacturing a new bracket. I just cut the handle off the the old battery and stuck it onto the "step" on the old one with some sticky foam pads.

Lotus sell a modified battery clamp for about a tenner [part. E111M0025F] which will fit even better but that means you have to remember to order it.

Eliseparts also sell an adjustable battery clamp which allows adjustment for both height and width of the new battery. This is needed for the Varta batteries, which are wider.


The supplier assured me the battery was sealed - IT IS NOT!

There are two vent holes on either side of the battery, about 1/4 inch in diameter. I used the passenger side one for the vent pipe, and plugged the driver's side one with the blanking plug which comes free, moulded onto the battery's handle.

The battery breather is Very important, not fitting the battery breather or forgetting to plug the second hole the Varta batteries have can mean concentrated sulphuric acid sloshing around inside your car - Not a good thing.

Remember to smear the terminals with vaseline before reattaching the cables, this helps stop corrosion.

If you are keen, remove the other end of the earth strap where it attaches to the chassis and clean it with emery paper, grease it with vaseline and refit - this can help with the "Engine temperature appears to change when I turn on the heater fan" problem.

S2 K-series Fitting

The procedure is described in the Owners Handbook and is pretty self explanatory:

1. Undo the retaining clamp at the base of the battery (6mm Allen key required), and slide the battery out of the retaining shoe so you have easy access to the terminals. If you're doing this on your own - loosen the negative black earth cable nut slightly BUT DON'T DISCONNECT IT JUST YET.

2. Turn all lights, radios, satnav etc equipment off.

3. Turn the ignition off and wait about 10 seconds for the engine management system to settle down.

4. DON'T arm the alarm or immobiliser

N.B. It is easier to undo the 12mm nut on the stud rather than attempt to undo the 10mm nut on the terminal

5. Within 25 seconds of turning off the ignition (i.e. before the immobiliser/alarm kicks in), disconnect the negative black earth cable from the battery. ALWAYS disconnect the black first.

6. Disconnect the positive red cable from the battery.

7. Swap the old battery out, transfer the terminal connectors to the new battery, put the new battery into the boot so you can work on it to reconnect the terminal cables.

8. Connect the positive red cable to the new battery.

9. Connect the negative black cable to the new battery (have the keyfob to hand just in case the alarm goes off). ALWAYS reconnect the black last.

10. Slide it back into the retaining shoe, refit the 6mm clamp.

S2 Yota Fitting

Wikipedia On Car Batteries

On the battery the ridges on the side that the mounts sit on are actually removable so you can just lift them out leaving a lower ridge which fits the mounts on the car perfectly.

Jump starting a battery

When jumping/charging batteries, hook up the positive terminals first, then negative (whether it's to the battery or to some convenient point on the chassis/engine).

Once jumped/charged, remove negative first, then positive last.

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