https://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&feed=atom&action=historyS2 Track Modifications - Revision history2024-03-29T10:04:19ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.0https://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6832&oldid=prevhbaumhardt at 20:22, 28 February 20082008-02-28T20:22:45Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since cheap is cheap. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">look </del>the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since cheap is cheap. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">which </ins>will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Going lower than 110 on the front will cause the wheels to catch on the clam under heavy braking and cause early lock-up. Going stiffer on the springs (say 450/550) will allow less damping, but, they will be far less forgiving when you make a mistake. the </ins>Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td></tr>
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</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6586&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 6. Tyres */2008-01-14T23:20:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">6. Tyres</span></span></p>
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</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6514&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 9. Uniball Toe links */2007-12-17T09:10:50Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">9. Uniball Toe links</span></span></p>
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</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6446&oldid=prevtheron: /* 5. Suspension */2007-11-05T12:26:07Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">5. Suspension</span></span></p>
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</table>theronhttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6445&oldid=prevtheron: /* 5. Suspension */2007-11-05T12:25:31Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">5. Suspension</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>New suspension will need the Geometry adjusting, another long storey but 340R Road is probably a good place to be here whilst still on road tyres see:[[Geo Setups]] for more information.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>New suspension will need the Geometry adjusting, another long storey but 340R Road is probably a good place to be here whilst still on road tyres see:[[Geo Setups]] for more information.</div></td></tr>
</table>theronhttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6444&oldid=prevtheron: /* 5. Suspension */2007-11-05T12:25:01Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">5. Suspension</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So your bouncing over the track at speed and overloading the tyres on the bumpstops in corners with loads of lock and high slip angles for safe predictable understeery fun, time for suspension ? Well if you eventually want to fit cut slick tyres and actually use their capabilities you really will need stiffer springs and that means new monotube dampers that can handle the spring rates.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So your bouncing over the track at speed and overloading the tyres on the bumpstops in corners with loads of lock and high slip angles for safe predictable understeery fun, time for suspension ? Well if you eventually want to fit cut slick tyres and actually use their capabilities you really will need stiffer springs and that means new monotube dampers that can handle the spring rates.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">cheep </del>is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">cheep</del>. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but look the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">cheap </ins>is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">cheap</ins>. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but look the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td></tr>
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</table>theronhttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6241&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 10. Other Stuff */2007-08-28T19:12:35Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">10. Other Stuff</span></span></p>
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</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6240&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 5. Suspension */2007-08-28T19:09:48Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">5. Suspension</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So your bouncing over the track at speed and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">riding </del>the bumpstops in corners with loads of lock and high slip angles for safe predictable understeery fun, time for suspension ? Well if you eventually want to fit cut slick tyres and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">really </del>use their capabilities you really will need stiffer springs and that means new monotube dampers that can handle the spring rates.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So your bouncing over the track at speed and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">overloading the tyres on </ins>the bumpstops in corners with loads of lock and high slip angles for safe predictable understeery fun, time for suspension ? Well if you eventually want to fit cut slick tyres and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">actually </ins>use their capabilities you really will need stiffer springs and that means new monotube dampers that can handle the spring rates.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since cheep is cheep. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but look the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Lotus Sport Suspension with adjustable ride height £600, Nitron One Way with adjustable ride height and damping (bump/rebound) £1,100 or Ohlins or ... but be really careful about the £500 twintube damper offers since cheep is cheep. This is a long conversation and involves careful consideration of spring rates, ride height and geometry, but look the most common setup for regular track cars is Nitron one way with 400/475 springs on 110/120 ride will drop a 2 minute lap by 5 to 10 seconds providing a more stable and predictable platform. Do a SELOC search on +spring +rates</div></td></tr>
</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=6121&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 9. Uniball Toe links */2007-07-10T16:25:31Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">9. Uniball Toe links</span></span></p>
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</table>hbaumhardthttps://wiki.seloc.org/index.php?title=S2_Track_Modifications&diff=5989&oldid=prevhbaumhardt: /* 10. Other Stuff */2007-06-02T18:19:51Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">10. Other Stuff</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Steering Wheel – you can bring the steering wheel 20 to 30mm closer, but it needs a new wheel (300mm Momo Team is usual £100) with an adaptor £20 and boss either fixed £50 or removable £100 [[S2 Removable Steering Install]].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Steering Wheel – you can bring the steering wheel 20 to 30mm closer, but it needs a new wheel (300mm Momo Team is usual £100) with an adaptor £20 and boss either fixed £50 or removable £100 [[S2 Removable Steering Install]].</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Seats – Really nice but unnecessary (Budget £400, Eliseparts CF £550, 340R/Exige £700, Reverie Mulsanne £800) don’t forget you may need mounts or a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">frame </del>conversion kit as well. Yes having shoulder and crutch holes is great, but with a properly fitted quality harness, the normal Elise seats are OK for track days.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Seats – Really nice but unnecessary (Budget £400, Eliseparts CF £550, 340R/Exige £700, Reverie Mulsanne £800) don’t forget you may need <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">custom </ins>mounts or a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">subframe </ins>conversion kit as well. Yes having shoulder and crutch holes is great, but with a properly fitted quality harness, the normal Elise seats are OK for track days.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Vendors===</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Vendors===</div></td></tr>
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